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billet5

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Leave where? Iraq? Stay in Afgahnistan,, sure, But Iraq? Were gonna get attacked nomatter who we occupy. The Muslim world hates us. It makes sense to me to stay in Afgahnistan,, screw Iraq,, Im starting to think Saddam ruled the way he did because it was the only way to keep them inline.
I agree, not to mention, we have not pissed them off more than ever. There isnt any more chance of us getting attacked if we stay in Iraq than if we leave. Its not like that is the only country with terrorist, in fact, remember...that isnt even the country the terrorists were from. Minor details though, who needs facts anyway. Bush finished his daddys work to some degree and Haliburton is doing great.
 

Eleven11

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Any candidate getting in office was going to have to raise taxes somewhere since our national debt is 10 freakin trillion $$!
No, they could start by cutting billions in wastefull spending, and not bailing out every failier in the business sec. .............11
 

billet5

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No, they could start by cutting billions in wastefull spending, and not bailing out every failier in the business sec. .............11
That is the specific answer IMO. Unfortunately, dem or rep, that is never in the cards. Pathetic.
 

Eleven11

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That is the specific answer IMO. Unfortunately, dem or rep, that is never in the cards. Pathetic.
really. we need REAL conservatives or better yet Libertarians in Washington.
The last group of Rep, well most of them where just a bunch of spend happy moderates(including our lame Pres).
Our Gov needs to be stripped down to its bare minimum and start from there, if we did that we'd realise they are already getting way to much of our $$ and sure as hell dont deserve more to waist, But we get rid of wastefull spenders and replace them with even BIGGER spenders, :confused: makes no since to me.............11
 

billet5

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really. we need REAL conservatives or better yet Libertarians in Washington.
The last group of Rep, well most of them where just a bunch of spend happy moderates(including our lame Pres).
Our Gov needs to be stripped down to its bare minimum and start from there, if we did that we'd realise they are already getting way to much of our $$ and sure as hell dont deserve more to waist, But we get rid of wastefull spenders and replace them with even BIGGER spenders, :confused: makes no since to me.............11
Im not really that well versed in our history of Presidents, I'm curious if you or anyone else here knows when the last president was that led the way you are describing. Im nervous that the answer might go a lot farther back than I hope for.
 

Eleven11

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Im not really that well versed in our history of Presidents, I'm curious if you or anyone else here knows when the last president was that led the way you are describing. Im nervous that the answer might go a lot farther back than I hope for.
Reagan would have but he had to rebuild our military and to get his way he had to give the dems some of their spending they wanted which ended up being $1.25 for every $1.00 of revenue generated by his tax cuts.
You would probably have to go back before the depression to find a pres. like we're talking about...........11
 

billet5

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Reagan would have but he had to rebuild our military and to get his way he had to give the dems some of their spending they wanted which ended up being $1.25 for every $1.00 of revenue generated by his tax cuts.
You would probably have to go back before the depression to find a pres. like we're talking about...........11
I kind of figured you would say that........it's sad, really.
 

txjustin

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No, they could start by cutting billions in wastefull spending, and not bailing out every failier in the business sec. .............11
Like it has been said...Iraq. 10 billion per month is a little ridiculous. I agree with not bailing out all businesses. The AIG thing was pretty sad! IMO they should let GM file bankruptcy which will allow GM to get out of all the labor union contracts, pension plans, and bad contracts that have been killing them for years.
 

Eleven11

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Like it has been said...Iraq. 10 billion per month is a little ridiculous. I agree with not bailing out all businesses. The AIG thing was pretty sad! IMO they should let GM file bankruptcy which will allow GM to get out of all the labor union contracts, pension plans, and bad contracts that have been killing them for years.
Amen to that.........11
 

txjustin

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People think that if they file for bankruptcy there will be millions without jobs. That is not the case...they will get out of all their crazy contracts with the unions. Did you know that for every car sold the 1st $2500 of it goes to retirement for workers? These guys are making an average of $60/hour. Insane if you ask me! They need to get it where Toyota and other dealers have their wages...closer to $30/hour.
 

ian smith

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There will be no change for the good....trust me on this...


...And Wally...better start buying your guns soon...2nd Amendment is about to no longer exist!

Your second Amendment rights will not be taken away.. What are you a repuplican KKK/ neo Nazi... Thats the kind of shit thy allways say


on a side note Anyone rmember the movie with Robon Williams and jerry Reeds,,,, I cnt remember the name,,, but this thread kinda of reminds me of that movie....Robin Wiliams joins a militant training camp,,,,, damit what whas it called.. Great Movie. Alos had the grumpy old guy from the odd couple...
 

s7v7n

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Your second Amendment rights will not be taken away.. What are you a repuplican KKK/ neo Nazi... Thats the kind of shit thy allways say


on a side note Anyone rmember the movie with Robon Williams and jerry Reeds,,,, I cnt remember the name,,, but this thread kinda of reminds me of that movie....Robin Wiliams joins a militant training camp,,,,, damit what whas it called.. Great Movie. Alos had the grumpy old guy from the odd couple...
Just wait Ian...just wait...B.O. will have our 2nd Ammendment taken away by 2010.

And yes by the way...I am a republican (check), my great grandfather was a part of the KKK (check) and lastly my other great, great (I believe) grandfather on my moms side was apart of the Nazi (check)...
 

txjustin

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Just wait Ian...just wait...B.O. will have our 2nd Ammendment taken away by 2010.

And yes by the way...I am a republican (check), my great grandfather was a part of the KKK (check) and lastly my other great, great (I believe) grandfather on my moms side was apart of the Nazi (check)...
Lol, that is where the paranoia is coming from...
 
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