Obama????

FTW

FTW

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I dont even wanna talk about this shit anymore. Only one word come to mind while I was watching him give that speech while fuckin Jesse Jackson was in tears listing:rolleyes: . That word was MARTYR.
 
s7v7n

s7v7n

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billet5 said:
I'm not sure if you read the link, he is talking about gun control, not abolishing the 2nd amendment. I still dont agree with what they were trying to do, but it is far from abolishing the 2nd amendment.

I couldnt get the two links to open on the open border subject, well...one of them did open part way, but it looked like somebodies blog about a paragraph long :confused: . Then the third one is about his aunt.

BTW, I respect your opinion and I'm not trying to come off as arguing with you, just friendly discussion.... :)
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I'll see what I can do to get the other ones working...sorry buddy...they aren't working for me now either...

...And correct, his AUNT was living here illegaly....and he DIDN'T know about it...give me a break!
 
billet5

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s7v7n said:
I'll see what I can do to get the other ones working...sorry buddy...they aren't working for me now either...

...And correct, his AUNT was living here illegaly....and he DIDN'T know about it...give me a break!
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Well, either way....I hope he does a good job and I hope he helps our country make the turn for the better. Time will tell on what he can accomplish, he definitely has a lot of shit to start off his term with.
 
thick

thick

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he wont be good on your guns. i think both candidates are worthless. obama just happened to fool more voters and mccain got fucked by bush being so horrible
wallyd said:
i really think mccain would be bush all over again and i am def way worse off than i was 4 or even 8 years ago. just think a change would do some good, god i hope anyway.:confused:
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thick

thick

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man dont you realize that is how everything starts. little changes at a time?:confused:
wallyd said:
i was a little hesitant on placing my vote for obama because of the way i think he will go on the 2nd amendment. you just have to go for the lesser of 2 evils on this one. i agree there will be some changes on the gun issue i just hope they are not TOO drastic.
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thick

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i rolled a car during deer season. My shotgun was in the trunk. Broke it in half. These great fucking laws didnt allow me to buy a shotgun that weekend. I had to wait a certain amount of time. Dont remember but when fucking deer season is sat and sunday and your gun fucks up on friday you should be able to buy a fucking shotgun friday night to shoot the damn deer on sat. still pisses me off. never been in trouble in my life but couldnt buy a fucking shotgun during deer season
billet5 said:
I'm sure someone could get it if they really wanted to, but.....being legal, there would be a whole lot more and easily accesible. We definitely dont need the local teenager getting pissed off and stealing his dads stash of hand grenades.........Im for strict guidelines as far as who can buy guns, what is your past as far as mental health issues, waiting periods, and what type of weapons you can buy. I against the ban on assult rifles that is in some states, but I can see why they exist.
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thick

thick

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i hope we do spend some money to be more independent from foreign oil. Shouldve happened 20 years ago... Overall we are just fucked either way i think
 
s7v7n

s7v7n

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If he doesn't change something HUGE in the first year of 09'...he will be "boo'ed" and forgotten....so we shall see in....I think like 69 days right?
 
txjustin

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s7v7n said:
Obama....hmmmmmm, I think I like his proposed ideas...have you guys' checked it out?

-Raising taxes
-10 yrs and spend 150B to make us go green
-2nd Amendment is obolished
-"change" is near.....bwahahahahah
-He wants to open our country up for foreingers!
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Any candidate getting in office was going to have to raise taxes somewhere since our national debt is 10 freakin trillion $$!
 
ian smith

ian smith

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juaneye said:
they are the party of excuses and you know it. the pussification of America is complete. wait until we are attacked, remember jimmy carter?
it is all about control to the socialists, gun control is the agenda and a little chip at a time. it will start with banning high capacity mags again, then "military" style. the dirty little secret, is all weapons were military style at one time or another.....lol! fools never learn, and we have just done a very foolish thing.
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Bush was in office when we were attacked..:rolleyes:

I know plenty of Dems who own Guns, most have conceal and carry permits.. Its a huge Republican misderection (?) allways saying how dems want to take away guns.. Guns dont kill people people kill people,, DUH. Its a heck of alot harder to kill tons of kids in a school with a knife than it is with a gun.. I have no prob with guns,, as long as the proper steps are taken to keep them out of the hands of fucknuts who want to blow away their entire class because Susie sweettits turned some nutjob down for the prom. JMO
 
billet5

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ian smith said:
Bush was in office when we were attacked..:rolleyes:

I know plenty of Dems who own Guns, most have conceal and carry permits.. Its a huge Republican misderection (?) allways saying how dems want to take away guns.. Guns dont kill people people kill people,, DUH. Its a heck of alot harder to kill tons of kids in a school with a knife than it is with a gun.. I have no prob with guns,, as long as the proper steps are taken to keep them out of the hands of fucknuts who want to blow away their entire class because Susie sweettits turned some nutjob down for the prom. JMO
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Yes, but the republicans blame it on Clinton because the planning was going on before Bush was in office. Now if we get attacked, I am sure it will be blamed on Obama, even if there isnt any changes to our security. Its just the nature of the blame game. Now Ian, remember...stand behind your party line no matter what......;)
 
s7v7n

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billet5 said:
Yes, but the republicans blame it on Clinton because the planning was going on before Bush was in office. Now if we get attacked, I am sure it will be blamed on Obama, even if there isnt any changes to our security. Its just the nature of the blame game. Now Ian, remember...stand behind your party line no matter what......;)
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If we leave...we will get attacked...:(
 
ian smith

ian smith

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s7v7n said:
If we leave...we will get attacked...:(
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Leave where? Iraq? Stay in Afgahnistan,, sure, But Iraq? Were gonna get attacked nomatter who we occupy. The Muslim world hates us. It makes sense to me to stay in Afgahnistan,, screw Iraq,, Im starting to think Saddam ruled the way he did because it was the only way to keep them inline.
 
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