I hate Quasimoto! details inside

purevi1

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I hate Quasimoto! details inside

he should be a damn professor, I swear I get home from work wanting to shoot the shit but instead he makes me think instead. I havent thought about physics since college but you had to bring up the divine # which made me stay up all night thinking about it, and its relationship to religion along with the second law of thermodynamics and how it disproves evolution

Thanks to him I now completely believe in god and Ive gotten no sleep:mad:
 

purevi1

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seriously quasi is too smart for his own good. By far the smartest guy Ive ever talked too


NO IM NOT alright Im going to gym than BJJ than bed ;)
 

spanky

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I cannot imagine Quasi going to A&M. LOL Just trying to get him fired up aren't you? Tell me DBP, who is going to be the next A&M coach? I know they want Spurrier.
 

.!.

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from the short time ive known quasi, he definately has shown how smart he really is

nice guy too
 

purevi1

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maybe hell come on here and explain but its definately enlightening the way he made me look at things last night. I actually feel lucky to have that asshole as a friend
 

purevi1

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Purevil, I love your avatar. Bas Rutten is the fucking man, I love that guy.

What is the context of your avatar?? Is he in the gym, training ,and that cutey pie (Man she is cute. She needs to call dumbellpress and go with him to Texas Stadium to see a Dallas Cowboys game !!) approached him, asking for a picture with him?? Or is that a Pride sponsored photoshoot ??

Thanks man. It's good to see awesome, kick-ass guys like you on muscle-unlimited. We need more guys like you. :)

Bas is the bas..... Hes a piece of work around pretty girls and alcohol though. Really funny guy.

Yes that girl is purty:D
 

purevi1

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Does the Second Law of Thermodynamics Prove the Existence of God?
- by John M. Cimbala
Professor of Mechanical Engineering
The Pennsylvania State University
In this short article, I summarize my ideas about the second law of thermodynamics, and why I believe it points to a creator God.

This article also appears in the book In Six Days - Why Fifty Scientists Choose to Believe in Creation, edited by John F. Ashton, and published by Master Books, Green Forest, AR. Copyright 2000 by John F. Ashton. It is available on-line from Answers in Genesis .

A formal definition of the second law of thermodynamics is "In any closed system, a process proceeds in a direction such that the unavailable energy (the entropy) increases." In other words, in any closed system, the amount of disorder always increases with time. Things progress naturally from order to disorder, or from an available energy state to one where energy is more unavailable. A good example: a hot cup of coffee cools off in an insulated room. The total amount energy in the room remains the same (which satisfies the first law of thermodynamics). Energy is not lost, it is simply transferred (in the form of heat) from the hot coffee to the cool air, warming up the air slightly. When the coffee is hot, there is available energy because of the temperature difference between the coffee and the air. As the coffee cools down, the available energy is slowly turned to unavailable energy. At last, when the coffee is room temperature, there is no temperature difference between the coffee and the air, i.e. the energy is all in an unavailable state. The closed system (consisting of the room and the coffee) has suffered what is technically called a "heat death." The system is "dead" because no further work can be done since there is no more available energy. The second law says that the reverse cannot happen! Room temperature coffee will not get hot all by itself, because this would require turning unavailable energy into available energy.

Now consider the entire universe as one giant closed system. Stars are hot, just like the cup of coffee, and are cooling down, losing energy into space. The hot stars in cooler space represent a state of available energy, just like the hot coffee in the room. However, the second law of thermodynamics requires that this available energy is constantly changing to unavailable energy. In another analogy, the entire universe is winding down like a giant wind-up clock, ticking down and losing available energy. Since energy is continually changing from available to unavailable energy, someone had to give it available energy in the beginning! (I.e. someone had to wind up the clock of the universe at the beginning.) Who or what could have produced energy in an available state in the first place? Only someone or something not bound by the second law of thermodynamics. Only the creator of the second law of thermodynamics could violate the second law of thermodynamics, and create energy in a state of availability in the first place.

As time goes forward (assuming things continue as they are), the available energy in the universe will eventually turn into unavailable energy. At this point, the universe will be said to have suffered a heat death, just like the coffee in the room. The present universe, as we know it, cannot last forever. Furthermore, imagine going backwards in time. Since the energy of the universe is constantly changing from a state of availability to one of less availability, the further back in time one goes, the more available the energy of the universe. Using the clock analogy again, the further back in time, the more wound up the clock. Far enough back in time, the clock was completely wound up. The universe therefore cannot be infinitely old. One can only conclude that the universe had a beginning, and that beginning had to have been caused by someone or something operating outside of the known laws of thermodynamics.

Is this scientific proof for the existence of a Creator God? I think so. Evolutionary theories of the universe cannot counteract the above arguments for the existence of God. Evidence such as this helped to convince me to believe in God, and to accept His plan of salvation through His son Jesus Christ. For further detailes about my conversion to Christianity, I have written a short testimony.
 

Quasimoto

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Good post..........
Wow. I cant believe that I missed didn't see this post earlier. I was admittedly, a bit preoccupied as of late.

PE , I'm glad that you appreciated what we'd discussed .

I didn't go so far as to claim that there is a "god" , but if the Law of Entropy proves that evolution and the 'big-bang , did not and can not happen, that does leave open the door for some form of creator. If you add in Phi and the Fibonacci , you can make a pretty compelling counter-argument to evolutionists.
 

Quasimoto

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By the way, I taught Quasi everything he knows. When Quasi was at Texas A&M, he received private tutoring sessions from me from his Sophomore year to his Senior year. I only charged him $200 per hour. I gave him a break on my normal price.

HAHAHA.


DBP ! How the hell are you my man ? I've missed you !
 

purevi1

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Wow. I cant believe that I missed didn't see this post earlier. I was admittedly, a bit preoccupied as of late.

PE , I'm glad that you appreciated what we'd discussed .

I didn't go so far as to claim that there is a "god" , but if the Law of Entropy proves that evolution and the 'big-bang , did not and can not happen, that does leave open the door for some form of creator. If you add in Phi and the Fibonacci , you can make a pretty compelling counter-argument to evolutionists.
WELL IMO

I always thought Mathematics was the proof that God exists. It's too complicated to not have a designer, it's like the exact opposite of chaos
 

Baldspot

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Interesting article and cool interpretation I would say.

Although I'm biased as a Christian already, the only thing I have a hard time understanding in God's creation....is dinosaur fossils. They are definitely real but I try in my own mind to put a time as to when they were actually here on earth.
 

-MU-

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Yes Quasi is one of the more eductaed and open minded people I have seen on the boards. Always like reading his political views and his views on the government...Much of which I agree with.
 

ruedog

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Interesting article and cool interpretation I would say.

Although I'm biased as a Christian already, the only thing I have a hard time understanding in God's creation....is dinosaur fossils. They are definitely real but I try in my own mind to put a time as to when they were actually here on earth.
the dinosaur and fossil thing always got me also -where do they fit in????
 

Baldspot

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Well, again this is just me guessing, but I'm gonna guess they were before the flood of Noah's time.

It is known that for a few thousand years that humans were around in the middle east(holy land area), sometimes called the cradle of civilization.

If you recall the story of the Tower of Babel - where man at that time gathered together to build a tower to the heavens - this happened after the Lord flooded the earth/the Noah's ark story. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tower_of_Babel

The end result of the tower of Babel was that the Lord scattered man throughout the earth and confused their languages. Before this, man was mostly in the same area on earth.

So in my mind, all the dinosaurs coud have existed everywhere else on earth prior to Noah's flood. Now I know there is the whole carbon dating system and all, but that is science derived by man so this is how I try to justify it.

As mentioned, this is only my opinion. I find science in all forms fascinating, and the thought of tying in science with the existence of God is pretty cool as the scientific field usually disproves such theorys.
 
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juaneye

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two reasons i hate quasi...1- he corrects my grammatic errors (which there are many...i know), 2- he's smarter than i am (which is not hard to do, that i know also).... i hate you quasi...other than that i like you :D
 
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