i do 100mg ed. hurts a little in beginning but i adapt. do start to run out of spots though. if you mix it with tren or especially some form of deca, it is usually much user friendly. i like enth and cyp but bloating is much more a factor. prop has much less of that effect on me.also if you make the prop yourself i find grapeseed oil lessens the pain., along with lower ba. 2% i go