Who will you Vote for?

I will vote for...

  • Clinton

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • McCain

    Votes: 8 42.1%

  • Obama

    Votes: 2 10.5%

  • I wont vote because we are doomed in every direction!

    Votes: 9 47.4%
  • Total voters
    19
thick

thick

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yep at least we can put lube on b4 hand with mccain and know where we will get f'd. who knows what hilary and obama would do to us
FTW said:
No, were flat out fucked!:(

The element of surprise wont be that bad w/ McCain, because we already know that McCain is an absolute bastard.
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Oldschool70

Oldschool70

Trusted Member
Jessie Ventura

Jessie Ventura may be running for president. He has my vote!!! This could be our savior!! He will be on CNN Larry King Live this Tuesday 4/1.
 
O

Oldtimer

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FTW said:
I would guess some thing along the lines of a Jihad would break out. Whats your .02 on it OT?
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It's a complex issue. Generally, Iran is not liked in the region since the majority of the people are Sunni while Iran is Shia'a. Iran already blames the gulf countries (mainly Saudi Arabia) for the American dominance in the region and they have hinted more than once that if US troops used Saudi soil to initiate the attack that they will burn Saudi Arabia down.

What you are essentially looking at is WW3. Unlike Iraq, Iran has the military power, and the US administration made a big mistake and now they realized it. When they took down Tailban (Sunni), they appointed Shia'a in their place (northern alliance). When they took Saddam and the baath party down (mostly secular) they appointed Shia'a in their place. Hizbollah are also Shia'a and they will be a a good point of attack on Israel if a big war breaks out.

The Shia'a power has grown a lot in the region since 9/11, and this served no one but Iran. Unlike Sunnis, Shia'a usually have a religious obligation to Iran, wherever they are (this includes Shia'a in all the countries in the region, pretty much all the countries in the region have Shia'a varying from minority to almost-majority).

Imagine a war like that, the price of oil would probably reach something rediculous, and the world supply of energy would be hit very hard.

China would not be quite about this because this would give the US a huge edge over them if they controlled something like 90% of the world oil reserves.

The biggest losers in this whole ordeal would be us the people in the region, as this is happening on our own land and it is our people who will suffer (yet again) because of another war.
 
FTW

FTW

Trusted Member
Oldtimer said:
It's a complex issue. Generally, Iran is not liked in the region since the majority of the people are Sunni while Iran is Shia'a. Iran already blames the gulf countries (mainly Saudi Arabia) for the American dominance in the region and they have hinted more than once that if US troops used Saudi soil to initiate the attack that they will burn Saudi Arabia down.

What you are essentially looking at is WW3. Unlike Iraq, Iran has the military power, and the US administration made a big mistake and now they realized it. When they took down Tailban (Sunni), they appointed Shia'a in their place (northern alliance). When they took Saddam and the baath party down (mostly secular) they appointed Shia'a in their place. Hizbollah are also Shia'a and they will be a a good point of attack on Israel if a big war breaks out.

The Shia'a power has grown a lot in the region since 9/11, and this served no one but Iran. Unlike Sunnis, Shia'a usually have a religious obligation to Iran, wherever they are (this includes Shia'a in all the countries in the region, pretty much all the countries in the region have Shia'a varying from minority to almost-majority).

Imagine a war like that, the price of oil would probably reach something rediculous, and the world supply of energy would be hit very hard.

China would not be quite about this because this would give the US a huge edge over them if they controlled something like 90% of the world oil reserves.

The biggest losers in this whole ordeal would be us the people in the region, as this is happening on our own land and it is our people who will suffer (yet again) because of another war.
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OT I highly respect your opinion about that but on the other side of the coin,,, if Obama won then that would put the USA closer to Charles Manson's "Helter Skelter" theory than any other point in time. Yes Manson was crazy as a bag of gophers but the fruitcake did have an I.Q. of 121.

I am not saying it will be "helter skelter" but IMO it would divided us more than bring us together. Maybe I am looking at it from a racial point of view but I do not see a logical choice other than Ron Paul.
 
O

Oldtimer

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FTW said:
OT I highly respect your opinion about that but on the other side of the coin,,, if Obama won then that would put the USA closer to Charles Manson's "Helter Skelter" theory than any other point in time. Yes Manson was crazy as a bag of gophers but the fruitcake did have an I.Q. of 121.

I am not saying it will be "helter skelter" but IMO it would divided us more than bring us together. Maybe I am looking at it from a racial point of view but I do not see a logical choice other than Ron Paul.
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Agreed. Ron Paul is by far the best imo.
 
Bigkarch

Bigkarch

New member
obama bin laden wont make it.....hillary is a bitch and America wont vote for her..so John Mcaine is it
 
Glade

Glade

Trusted Member
The fckn media wants Obama Insane in the Oval Office so bad it's making me utterly sick to my stomach.
You turn on the news and what do you get? How much more money he has generated. How much Clinton owes or is in debt.

The guy can do no wrong in the eyes of the media. Not even the Jerimiah Wright bullshit stopped or slowed em down.
Day by day the reality is closing that this could very well be our next guy and I just cant believe it.
If Clinton bowes out I am telling people to go republican just to keep him out!!!!
 
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