Very very high Blood pressure

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Very very high Blood pressure

Ok Doc, I have come off or am coming off all steroids, but HGH and t-3 in very low doses 25mcg every other day on the off day I take a tab thats 65mcg t-4 and 16mcg t-3. But my wife and doctor are both telling me well she is enforcing it since my doctor told her, that my body does not want to be big any more and I should lose size and do lots of cardio. I agreed to do this but dont want to. I told this story a few days ago on another site I am on and a few guys here are also on this site. But I am going to come off, and get smaller, maybe 25lbs smaller so i would be like 190 I guess. Thats my normal weight any how. But check this and tell me how deadly this is as I am scared to death myself. I am on both an ace and bata blocker, and been on for over a month or 2 now. my blood pressure went from 191/110 to 130/89. But all of the sudden it went from 130 to 235 over 115 pulse 117 I might have the 115 and 117 in the wrong order but they are so close it dont matter much. I have been getting pains in my heart area but nothing down my arm so I am guessing its gas. I want to and probably am going to drop all this meds and go naturally with this stuff, tel me if i should take them all or just 1 or 2 or 3 or what ever. Thanks.


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juaneye

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holy cow A.K., i hope you get your bp under control, for it to jump like that something has gotta be going on. i think you have the right idea about getting off everything for a while any way, nothing is worth ruining your health. i wish you the best, please keep us posted.

juaneye
 

-MU-

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235/115 is stroke level and is crazy high !!! I take 160mgs of Diovan per day and it does me great. Mine was 150/90 and now it is about 120-130 over 75-80.

If it takes coming off the sauce to get this down then by all means do so. You may be able to run an HRT dose 100-200mgs per week and just lose some weight and that maybe will do the trick.

Just remember that being big will not mean shit if your dead.
 

TenMan

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Word!!!!^^^^^^^^

Instead of the mass monster look, go for the men's fitness look. 99% of people (chicks) like that better that the huge look anyway. good luck!!!

TenMan
 
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235/115 is stroke level and is crazy high !!! I take 160mgs of Diovan per day and it does me great. Mine was 150/90 and now it is about 120-130 over 75-80.

If it takes coming off the sauce to get this down then by all means do so. You may be able to run an HRT dose 100-200mgs per week and just lose some weight and that maybe will do the trick.

Just remember that being big will not mean shit if your dead.
My only problem is I am running hrt levels now.. and i am about 7 1/2% bf so its going to be a herbal and cardio thing and 0 steroids possible forever but i dont really care i am 41 having a kid in 1-2 weeks and i dont want to drop dead now shit!
 

-MU-

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Is it possible that it could be something other than the gear ??? I mean 100-200mgs of test per week is not gonna cause problems with BP, doctors prescribe that all the time...especially if you are on BP meds so something is a miss here. Are you on any other stimulants ???

My only problem is I am running hrt levels now.. and i am about 7 1/2% bf so its going to be a herbal and cardio thing and 0 steroids possible forever but i dont really care i am 41 having a kid in 1-2 weeks and i dont want to drop dead now shit!
 
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no

I do have a blood volume problem but when I give blood i almost died i pass out and can go into a coma they told me, very rare but i have it so i am banned from giving blood, although I might try any how, and have my wife there to tell them to yank the needle when i start sweating from every poor thats the first sign. I was on clen and I am on t-3 but its also at hrt levels. My doctor told me it was not the gear but I got to try every thing right now because my next step is death. But the clen i stopped taking about 2 months ago.
 

-MU-

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If you don't mind me asking are you taking any other prescription drugs ??? Clen needs to be avoided at all cost it is known to aggrevate BP.

If you are indeed running an HRT does of Testosterone meaning 100-200mgs max then that is not the problem. Remember that 500mgs per week is not an HRT dose and that there is a huge difference in the way it can effect BP,Adrenal,Thyroid function and etc.

Still something just seems a miss here unless you are predisposed to this condition.
 

-MU-

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I remember you saying that you were taking 50mg anavars so that in itself =350mgs per week of gear...Thats not HRT, thats a cycle. Just trying to pinpoint what it could be.
 
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hmm

I did not count the var..... I am taking 250mg every 7 days.. 100mg var ed, I dropped the winny. I will drop the test and drop the var to 50mg as my cholesterol is perfect (go figure)... as var messes up that. so maybe thats the problem. once my bp is down i might (might) go back on at 250mg every 3 weeks. I also do not produce test bro but only in one testicle, the other one did not take over like the doctors told me it would. Crushed nut. But i dont produce HGH at all, but I am wondering if this is fixed from the gh-rh I been jamming. I might even come off that and see what its at. i get all my gear legally like you, but man it gets spendy. Thanks for the help MU your a good bro all of you are. Thanks guys.
 

Baldspot

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A.K.

I have no idea what your history (not recently, I mean total throughout your life) is with AAS, but I would seriously suggest you drop ALL your gear usage except for HRT dose of testosterone.

Take any/all variables out of the equation. Stop any T-3/clen too, stimulants mess with BP even if only slightly. Also avoid salt/sodium, don't know how much your eating on a regular basis but if you have hypertension(high blood pressure) you should avoid it or reduce it significantly.

Are you on an asprin regimen? Since you cannot donate blood, if you take 2-3 asprin tablets a day it can help thin the blood and lower BP a little. L-Arginine is supposed to relax the endothelium (lining in the blood vessels) which dialates the blood vessels, which reduces blood pressure. This article http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/80/7/2198 talks about intravenous arginine, but I would think any arginine supplement you could take atm might help.

By all means, get with your Doctor to get this figured out sir ASAP.
 
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A.K.

I have no idea what your history (not recently, I mean total throughout your life) is with AAS, but I would seriously suggest you drop ALL your gear usage except for HRT dose of testosterone.

Take any/all variables out of the equation. Stop any T-3/clen too, stimulants mess with BP even if only slightly. Also avoid salt/sodium, don't know how much your eating on a regular basis but if you have hypertension(high blood pressure) you should avoid it or reduce it significantly.

Are you on an asprin regimen? Since you cannot donate blood, if you take 2-3 asprin tablets a day it can help thin the blood and lower BP a little. L-Arginine is supposed to relax the endothelium (lining in the blood vessels) which dialates the blood vessels, which reduces blood pressure. This article http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/80/7/2198 talks about intravenous arginine, but I would think any arginine supplement you could take atm might help.

By all means, get with your Doctor to get this figured out sir ASAP.
I am on co-q-10 co-q-a calcium 2000mg perday, magnizuim, l-arginine l-lysine flax seed oil fish oil vit c at 4k per day. aspirin vit E Niacin catnip saint johns wort. and many other things scripted things + other vits... no salt at all but what comes with food. I stopped eating chicken as its a salty meat. i am eating scollop's and fish only + my protein shake fiber drink. Silymarin as well.
 
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-MU-

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So essentially you are doing 950mgs of gear per week. Thats not anywhere near HRT doses, That is a serious cycle. Drop the Var completely and run anything from 150-200mgs of hrt per week test only, and I quarentee your BP will drop.

Don't think that just because a var is an oral and that it is milder that its not a serious AAS, ESPECIALLY@100mgs per day.

I did not count the var..... I am taking 250mg every 7 days.. 100mg var ed, I dropped the winny. I will drop the test and drop the var to 50mg as my cholesterol is perfect (go figure)... as var messes up that. so maybe thats the problem. once my bp is down i might (might) go back on at 250mg every 3 weeks. I also do not produce test bro but only in one testicle, the other one did not take over like the doctors told me it would. Crushed nut. But i dont produce HGH at all, but I am wondering if this is fixed from the gh-rh I been jamming. I might even come off that and see what its at. i get all my gear legally like you, but man it gets spendy. Thanks for the help MU your a good bro all of you are. Thanks guys.
 
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ok

OK but i am going to drop it all, wifes orders, as she keeps reading how bigger heavier ppl dont live as long as a liter person. I will go down to 190 thats 25lbs liter, that should do the trick, only i told her if i get that small she needs to make sure I stay on a perfect diet to stay at 6-7% bf or less. My father inlaw is about 6% bf right now and he is 51.
 

Quasimoto

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I'm not being critical, but this is hardly a surprise to me . That cycle that you recently did was a shitload of gear.

I'm surprised, but glad that you didn't have MAJOR problems with those doses .
 
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I actually had a problem of the get go on that cycle and stopped it 2 weeks into it, so I am also glad i did not go with it i would have probably died.
 
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oh

and another reason did not do that cycle is because my gear I ordered from a reputable source on OLM never came. But I am glad as I would have taken it not knowing, then probably been worse off than i am now. Lucky for me i go to the doctors once every week- 2 weeks. I would suggest everyone go to a doctor at least every 2 weeks in fact especially us older guys. better safe than dead.
 
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no

No I think it was snagged, as the source has been and still is in contact and has not dodged me at ALL, no scam there.
 
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