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started at 75mcg ED did not see much for result after 3 weeks uped to 150mcg ED after 3 weeks did not see the results I thought I should have bumped it up to 225mcg ED started seeing some good results there stayed there for about 1.5months now I am at 100mcg ED to maintain and have been there for about 4 weeks will stop in late fall till mid Dec and will go back on again.
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I stay on HGH t-3 t-4 combo 8-9 months out of each year... But the thyroid hormone I run at a very low dose.
I stay on HGH t-3 t-4 combo 8-9 months out of each year... But the thyroid hormone I run at a very low dose.
M FREAKY
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AK may I ask why T-3 T-4 conbo,,,
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even though one turns into the other it still helps burn and metabolizes fat even before it turns to the other compound, and then you get that benefit as well along with the t-3 too. Your body naturally produces both as well. Iptabs, tabs are the perfect balance of the human body.
even though one turns into the other it still helps burn and metabolizes fat even before it turns to the other compound, and then you get that benefit as well along with the t-3 too. Your body naturally produces both as well. Iptabs, tabs are the perfect balance of the human body.
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here is a resent study on it
Dr. Barry Durrant-Peatfield on the T4/T3 Studies
I cannot let the controversy over these recent T4/T3 trials pass without placing my own thoughts on record. The last major trial pointed out that actually patients did better on T4 and T3 together than with T4 alone, which certainly supports the Drs Shames' opinion that one trial should never be regarded as final. Doctors Mitchell and Rothfeld are of much the same opinion. Even our Dr Toft has conceded the point in the last 18 months.
We all know that our patients do rather better on Armour than T4 as Dr Mercola points out; and that is because it is natural: it is the way nature does it. In nature the thyroid gland produces 80% T4 and slightly less than 20% of T3. What can possibly be wrong in supplementing a failing thyroid output in the same way? Should it not be actually the treatment of choice?
The fact that many patients do okay on T4 alone is no credit to us physicians. The body can often cope quite well, even using the actual unnatural supplementation of T4 alone. Armour thyroid works because it provides the proportion that nature in her wisdom has found works best. Clearly, the next best thing to Armour, is a combination of T4 and T3 in the correct proportion. So no physician should be reluctant to prescribe T3 as well as T4; most especially when the hypothyroidism is of long-standing, where conversion of T4 to T3 may be compromised.
I am pretty unhappy that both trials have too narrow a remit; mood and a sense of well-being simply isn't enough - there is a great deal more to hypothyroidism than this. The "anxiety" mentioned may well be that the overall dose was too high (perhaps because the combination was actually working better), or possibly (not even considered, it would seem) that there was a weakened adrenal response, which would interfere with adequate conversion or tissue uptake, so creating toxic symptoms. I am perfectly convinced that we must continue as before, listening to our patients and using commonsense.
Dr. Barry Durrant-Peatfield on the T4/T3 Studies
I cannot let the controversy over these recent T4/T3 trials pass without placing my own thoughts on record. The last major trial pointed out that actually patients did better on T4 and T3 together than with T4 alone, which certainly supports the Drs Shames' opinion that one trial should never be regarded as final. Doctors Mitchell and Rothfeld are of much the same opinion. Even our Dr Toft has conceded the point in the last 18 months.
We all know that our patients do rather better on Armour than T4 as Dr Mercola points out; and that is because it is natural: it is the way nature does it. In nature the thyroid gland produces 80% T4 and slightly less than 20% of T3. What can possibly be wrong in supplementing a failing thyroid output in the same way? Should it not be actually the treatment of choice?
The fact that many patients do okay on T4 alone is no credit to us physicians. The body can often cope quite well, even using the actual unnatural supplementation of T4 alone. Armour thyroid works because it provides the proportion that nature in her wisdom has found works best. Clearly, the next best thing to Armour, is a combination of T4 and T3 in the correct proportion. So no physician should be reluctant to prescribe T3 as well as T4; most especially when the hypothyroidism is of long-standing, where conversion of T4 to T3 may be compromised.
I am pretty unhappy that both trials have too narrow a remit; mood and a sense of well-being simply isn't enough - there is a great deal more to hypothyroidism than this. The "anxiety" mentioned may well be that the overall dose was too high (perhaps because the combination was actually working better), or possibly (not even considered, it would seem) that there was a weakened adrenal response, which would interfere with adequate conversion or tissue uptake, so creating toxic symptoms. I am perfectly convinced that we must continue as before, listening to our patients and using commonsense.
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i've been taking a T2/T3 mix the past 2 months. 150mcg T2 and 50mcg T3 everyday.
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Hey Fight everyone how well do you think that t-2 works? was thinking of adding it to my mix. I noticed that to btw on no t-3 by its self... wonder if there is something there? My moms thyroid specialist makes her take both , the t-4 at a higher dose and the t-3 at a lower dose. She takes something else as well thats natural.
Hey Fight everyone how well do you think that t-2 works? was thinking of adding it to my mix. I noticed that to btw on no t-3 by its self... wonder if there is something there? My moms thyroid specialist makes her take both , the t-4 at a higher dose and the t-3 at a lower dose. She takes something else as well thats natural.
sssc
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hey pros...
this is my first update after starting a liquid t3 cycle... i started this past wendesday and it has really kicked me fairly hard since... i started this cycle off at 50mgcs a day... i wanted to hold it there until i started pyramiding it down after 6 weeks, but if the sides don't slow or stop in next few days i am coming off of it...
i am not sure why, but this stuff reminds me of the dreaded sides i get from tren!!! i know that sounds absurd but it is true... i don't mind the sweating, but the anxiety and mental instability that i experienced a few times today is not acceptable...
what do you guys think i should do... "man up" and roll with it, or back it down to 25mgcs a day... if all else fails i can just stop it all together, but i am hoping that after a few more days the sides will stop...
the ironic part about this deal is that i was wondering before i started using it how i would know if this stuff is real... guess what, it is real...
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i had less sides running dnp... besides a little night sweating i had zerp sides with dnp...
this is my first update after starting a liquid t3 cycle... i started this past wendesday and it has really kicked me fairly hard since... i started this cycle off at 50mgcs a day... i wanted to hold it there until i started pyramiding it down after 6 weeks, but if the sides don't slow or stop in next few days i am coming off of it...
i am not sure why, but this stuff reminds me of the dreaded sides i get from tren!!! i know that sounds absurd but it is true... i don't mind the sweating, but the anxiety and mental instability that i experienced a few times today is not acceptable...
what do you guys think i should do... "man up" and roll with it, or back it down to 25mgcs a day... if all else fails i can just stop it all together, but i am hoping that after a few more days the sides will stop...
the ironic part about this deal is that i was wondering before i started using it how i would know if this stuff is real... guess what, it is real...
ps,
i had less sides running dnp... besides a little night sweating i had zerp sides with dnp...
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sssc
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hey guys,
thought i would drop a little update on the t3 situation...
i decided to drop my dosage down to 25mcgs as of yesterday, and it went great...i had absolutely no sides , and as a matter of fact i have never felt better...
i am usually tired and sleepy most of the day, but that was not the case yesterday on the reduced dosage... i felt so good that i spend the entire day shopping with my family...
i took another 25mcgs this morning @ 3am before i headed out to do cardio, and everything seems to be great...
it is amazing how much a dosage difference of 25mcgs makes!!! i have noticed that my energy level has skyrocked... it almost feels like i am jacked up on a "ECA" stack throughout the day...
anyway, thats all for now...
thought i would drop a little update on the t3 situation...
i decided to drop my dosage down to 25mcgs as of yesterday, and it went great...i had absolutely no sides , and as a matter of fact i have never felt better...
i am usually tired and sleepy most of the day, but that was not the case yesterday on the reduced dosage... i felt so good that i spend the entire day shopping with my family...
i took another 25mcgs this morning @ 3am before i headed out to do cardio, and everything seems to be great...
it is amazing how much a dosage difference of 25mcgs makes!!! i have noticed that my energy level has skyrocked... it almost feels like i am jacked up on a "ECA" stack throughout the day...
anyway, thats all for now...
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ephedrine and caffeines constrict the blood flow, aspirin is used to release it some what but its still a short lived fat lose. t-3 t-4 will always keep burning fat for ever, but you take to much and it hurts the heart thats why they stopped prescribing it to ppl in the early 70's the biggest users were fat ass holes who could not stop eating and boxers even Mohamed ali used t-3.-t-4. I want to know about t-2 fe1? please tell.
ephedrine and caffeines constrict the blood flow, aspirin is used to release it some what but its still a short lived fat lose. t-3 t-4 will always keep burning fat for ever, but you take to much and it hurts the heart thats why they stopped prescribing it to ppl in the early 70's the biggest users were fat ass holes who could not stop eating and boxers even Mohamed ali used t-3.-t-4. I want to know about t-2 fe1? please tell.
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the body produces 20%t-3 and 80% t-4 naturally, so adding both in gives you that little extra fat burn in a different area, as the t-4 will work as t-4 and t-3 once it converts to t-3, so it lasts longer in the body. I am wondering about adding t-2 to this mix, if its thyroid hormone...
the body produces 20%t-3 and 80% t-4 naturally, so adding both in gives you that little extra fat burn in a different area, as the t-4 will work as t-4 and t-3 once it converts to t-3, so it lasts longer in the body. I am wondering about adding t-2 to this mix, if its thyroid hormone...