Jay might deserve 1 sandle because hes the veteran in the olympia show it should be his term by now. but lets talk about reality, physique wise, there no friggin way that Jay beats Ronnie in muscle mass, dryness, vascularity dept. like i mentioned before, Jay never have those dried up vascular look, the look that seems like thousands of worms wrap around through out the body. its a shady sports, on my last show i believe i deserve 2nd pl, but i ended up 4th, thats only because those guys ahead of me are the show veteran and im a rookie, but physique wise, no way. if weider and Jim can step down, then this sports will be more fair.