Don't Know Much...So Help...

[s7v7n]

Don't Know Much...So Help...

Guys -

I am thinking of going on IGF or GH. I will then stop the use of all AAS. Is that something you all think would be benificial? I see the pro's to GH/slin/IGF is amazing...however, I never tried this !! Would love too...and see what it does for me...

...I infact do have some questions though :

1. Where would I inject IGF? Is it the same GH, where I need to roll the skin then shoot in the back of the fat? Is there sites that show exactly where to do this and how the procedure it done?

2. Is it worth trying this for the money?

3. Is it best to shoot once or twice a day at 20mcg?

 

[d-red]

i have a question.......why do you want to stop the use of all aas and then use igf or gh??(not that theres anything wrong with it.)

why don`t you want to use them together?

 

[s7v7n]

Two reasons:

1. Money
2. Money

LOL...just seems like if I could stay on IGF the rest of my life, and not have to cycle...why not do that then go on cycles, where I don't feel good about myself...you dig?

 

[Jester]

you can inject igf/hgh intramuscular... a good many people prefer it that way.

igf is good for spot injects.... at the point of desired localized growth (ie: biceps, triceps)

you should look into the complications of igf "overusage".... you wouldn't want to run it all year round.

 

[Eleven11]

Guys -

I am thinking of going on IGF or GH. I will then stop the use of all AAS. Is that something you all think would be benificial? I see the pro's to GH/slin/IGF is amazing...however, I never tried this !! Would love too...and see what it does for me...

...I infact do have some questions though :

1. Where would I inject IGF? Is it the same GH, where I need to roll the skin then shoot in the back of the fat? Is there sites that show exactly where to do this and how the procedure it done?

2. Is it worth trying this for the money?

3. Is it best to shoot once or twice a day at 20mcg?

If you can afford both Id do it, they both have quailities of there own. if not at your age IGF for sure. 40-80mcg's on workout days is fine. Do it in 1 shot PWO but don't get all freeked out about pinning 5min after your WO. Just go home and do your shot. You can hit a muscle trained (you have to shoot it somewhere) but that really doesn't matter either, I do delts,tris and bis, one of those muscles is worked in every WO.
IGF = IM. PWO
HGH = subQ around the belly, 1st thing AM. Pinch and pull the skin back and inject BETWEEN the skin/fat and muscle.................11

PS hope your not pissed that I used this girl as my avy. I had to have her I waited 1day then jumped at the chance......11

 

[s7v7n]

If you can afford both Id do it, they both have quailities of there own. if not at your age IGF for sure. 40-80mcg's on workout days is fine. Do it in 1 shot PWO but don't get all freeked out about pinning 5min after your WO. Just go home and do your shot. You can hit a muscle trained (you have to shoot it somewhere) but that really doesn't matter either, I do delts,tris and bis, one of those muscles is worked in every WO.
IGF = IM. PWO
HGH = subQ around the belly, 1st thing AM. Pinch and pull the skin back and inject BETWEEN the skin/fat and muscle.................11

PS hope your not pissed that I used this girl as my avy. I had to have her I waited 1day then jumped at the chance......11

Thanks for all the info. One other thing I have notices, is that I see there is no PCT for this stuff. Meaning my pecker should be fine all year round right?

So are you saying shooting in the ass is a no-go then?

Oh and the avy is all good man!! I could care less, I even said nice avy in one of the posts we were in

 

[Eleven11]

Thanks for all the info. One other thing I have notices, is that I see there is no PCT for this stuff. Meaning my pecker should be fine all year round right?

So are you saying shooting in the ass is a no-go then? Oh and the avy is all good man!! I could care less, I even said nice avy in one of the posts we were in

I use a slin pin so I never considered glutes.
and PCT won't be an issue with GH of IGF...................11

 

[s7v7n]

I use a slin pin so I never considered glutes.
and PCT won't be an issue with GH of IGF...................11

Hmmmm, then why are we doing AAS?? Why get in trouble with all the FEDS and shit, why not just use this?

What kind of cycles or generally available for IGF? I mean, Jester said not to run it all year...BUT...left me blank on how long to run it!!!

 

[Package]

If you can afford both Id do it, they both have quailities of there own. if not at your age IGF for sure. 40-80mcg's on workout days is fine. Do it in 1 shot PWO but don't get all freeked out about pinning 5min after your WO. Just go home and do your shot. You can hit a muscle trained (you have to shoot it somewhere) but that really doesn't matter either, I do delts,tris and bis, one of those muscles is worked in every WO.
IGF = IM. PWO
HGH = subQ around the belly, 1st thing AM. Pinch and pull the skin back and inject BETWEEN the skin/fat and muscle.................11

11, why would you reccomend IGF over HGH, ? or wouldn't you? lets say your goal was building muscle for BB

 

[juiced2damax]

Hmmmm, then why are we doing AAS?? Why get in trouble with all the FEDS and shit, why not just use this?

What kind of cycles or generally available for IGF? I mean, Jester said not to run it all year...BUT...left me blank on how long to run it!!!

I don't know much about IGF but I can say that we use AAS becuase they work to increase the size of each muscle cell. The difference with GH is that it actually multiplies your muscle cells so combining the two make it twice as effective in two totally different ways. You dig???

 

[s7v7n]

I don't know much about IGF but I can say that we use AAS becuase they work to increase the size of each muscle cell. The difference with GH is that it actually multiplies your muscle cells so combining the two make it twice as effective in two totally different ways. You dig???

Yeah I got that - and understand that completely, however, wouldn't you make those cells larger (the doubled ones) after being on GH or IGF a certain amount of time, making it the same effect (if not better, since it won't be so fast [i.e. stretch marks or loose it when coming off cycle] as doing both AAS and IGF/GH)? Just curious guys'....trying to understand this lovely Chemistry!!! HAHAH!

 

[Eleven11]

11, why would you reccomend IGF over HGH, ? or wouldn't you? lets say your goal was building muscle for BB

mainly because he's younger. He would benefit a lot more from IGF1.
IGF builds more muscle. GH is more for fat burning and anti-aging, at least at normal doses. he's at the age where he's still producing GH at a good rate so Id say IGF for him.
7, you can make some nice gains with the two but AAS will maximise those gains to the fullest.

As far as dosing. If you do ED shots (IGF) @ 60-100mcgs then about 40days max on cycle. If you do say 40-80mcgs on WO days(3-4xwk) only then you can extend it out to 3months or as long as bottles last, Thats what I do..................11

 

[Package]

mainly because he's younger. He would benefit a lot more from IGF1.
IGF builds more muscle. GH is more for fat burning and anti-aging, at least at normal doses. he's at the age where he's still producing GH at a good rate so Id say IGF for him.
7, you can make some nice gains with the two but AAS will maximise those gains to the fullest.

As far as dosing. If you do ED shots (IGF) @ 60-100mcgs then about 40days max on cycle. If you do say 40-80mcgs on WO days(3-4xwk) only then you can extend it out to 3months or as long as bottles last, Thats what I do..................11

I am 33, so i would think the IGF would do me better but i hear such good things about GH.

 

[Eleven11]

I am 33, so i would think the IGF would do me better but i hear such good things about GH.

your at that age where your body is declining its GH output so you would benefit from it. And 1-2 cycles of IGF1 per yr would be nice too.
They do different things so if you can Id do both. but if you have to chose then Id go for IGF if muscle and size is what your looking for. GH if your looking for overall health, anti-aging and fat burning................11

 

[Package]

your at that age where your body is declining its GH output so you would benefit from it. And 1-2 cycles of IGF1 per yr would be nice too.
They do different things so if you can Id do both. but if you have to chose then Id go for IGF if muscle and size is what your looking for. GH if your looking for overall health, anti-aging and fat burning................11

Yes muscle building is my goal...what type of stack with AAS would you use with this, Test, Dbol, deca, .....or a past cycle you've used that worked well

 

[Eleven11]

Yes muscle building is my goal...what type of stack with AAS would you use with this, Test, Dbol, deca, .....or a past cycle you've used that worked well

all my cycles the past couple yrs have been Test prop, with either NPP, Tren, EQ and Var. My current one is Prop, primo trenE. just finished 12wks 80mcgs IGF 3xwkPWO and Im on 2ius GH Ed for the last 6wks and for good at this point.
Test, Tren and IGF are killer together. But any good cycle is going to give great results. I just saw your pics over on OLM, good work BTW, a couple cycles of IGF and next yr you'll have a totally different look about you(assuming you get good IGF) thicker and denser at least that is what it did for me and I didn't use it till I was 44.................11

 

[Package]

all my cycles the past couple yrs have been Test prop, with either NPP, Tren, EQ and Var. My current one is Prop, primo trenE. just finished 12wks 80mcgs IGF 3xwkPWO and Im on 2ius GH Ed for the last 6wks and for good at this point.
Test, Tren and IGF are killer together. But any good cycle is going to give great results. I just saw your pics over on OLM, good work BTW, a couple cycles of IGF and next yr you'll have a totally different look about you(assuming you get good IGF) thicker and denser at least that is what it did for me and I didn't use it till I was 44.................11

thanks for the kind words, i definetely like what i'm hearing about IGF, i know its a big investment, so i want to use it perfectly and top it off with AS. With the IGF what would be a good conservative or mild does for a first time user?, and a good way to run it ex i hear guys say ed, eod, 5 on 2 off?....i read so much different stuff.

 

[s7v7n]

thanks for the kind words, i definetely like what i'm hearing about IGF, i know its a big investment, so i want to use it perfectly and top it off with AS. With the IGF what would be a good conservative or mild does for a first time user?, and a good way to run it ex i hear guys say ed, eod, 5 on 2 off?....i read so much different stuff.

It is a very big investment - that's why I am asking about this too - wondering if it is worth it, you know

And as far as time frame - I have heard that the best is everyday if you can afford it, otherwise 5/2 is good and saves on the money!!!

 

[Eleven11]

It is a very big investment - that's why I am asking about this too - wondering if it is worth it, you know

And as far as time frame - I have heard that the best is everyday if you can afford it, otherwise 5/2 is good and saves on the money!!![/QUOTE]

that may be more true with GH, 5/2
IGF1 can be ran ED but if you do this you'll only be able to run it 30-40days because of receptor saturation, I run 80mcgs on WO days only M,W,F and 3bottles will last me around 3months(typical cycle of AAS for most). everything Ive read and tried tells me that smaller doses 40-80mcgs on WO days only doesn't saturate the receptors so you can stay on it for longer periods of time.
Now the 1 time I used it for PCT I ran 100mcgs ED for about 36days and it was part of the best PCT Ive ever had, kept all my gains and leanness and this was while we were on vacation and traveling last summer'06.
you guys should check out Omegas site www.getlr3.com great board to learn about IGF1 with guys that have a lot more experience with it than me. Some of these guys were some of the 1st guys to use the stuff. Anything you see by Maxrep pay attention to, he knows his stuff and has common sense to go with it................11

 

[Package]

that may be more true with GH, 5/2
IGF1 can be ran ED but if you do this you'll only be able to run it 30-40days because of receptor saturation, I run 80mcgs on WO days only M,W,F and 3bottles will last me around 3months(typical cycle of AAS for most). everything Ive read and tried tells me that smaller doses 40-80mcgs on WO days only doesn't saturate the receptors so you can stay on it for longer periods of time.
Now the 1 time I used it for PCT I ran 100mcgs ED for about 36days and it was part of the best PCT Ive ever had, kept all my gains and leanness and this was while we were on vacation and traveling last summer'06.
you guys should check out Omegas site www.getlr3.com great board to learn about IGF1 with guys that have a lot more experience with it than me. Some of these guys were some of the 1st guys to use the stuff. Anything you see by Maxrep pay attention to, he knows his stuff and has common sense to go with it................11

that read was very helpful!