Good but simple Newbie cycles

HALO

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Good but simple Newbie cycles

Sample 1
Wk 1-4 Dbol 30mg/ED
Wk 1-10 Test E 500mg/wk (inject 250mg 2X wk)

Sample 2
WK 1-4 Dbol 30mg/ED
Wk 1-12 Test E 500mg/wk (inject 250mg 2X wk)
Wk 1-12 EQ 400mg/wk (inject 200mg 2X wk)

Sample 3
Wk 1-4 Dbol 30mg/ED
Wk 1-10 Test E 500mg/wk (inject 250mg 2X wk)
Wk 1-10 Deca 400mg/wk (inject 200mg 2X wk)


PCT for cycles 8-16wks:
Day 1-30- .25mg L-dex + 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva......of course this can be changed this is not set in stone...if you dont know when to start PCT then ASK!
Some may not be ready for a "Bread&Butter cycle"multiple compound,and just run a "Bread only"one compound, long ester like Test E,kick starting it with D-bol for 4 weeks, getting and keeping a newbie excited.Thats my 2 worth,what do you guy's think?
 

juiced2damax

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Great post bro....My new fav is test and eq...This is the first time running it and I'm deff getting huge pumps now even after cutting my carbs. THey are deff all good rookie cycles though.
 

FTW

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I know i might get flamed for this but i dont think you realy need to stack for the first cycle.

For my first "which was one of my best" all i done was 400 mg per week for 10 weeks of shit ass brovel and got hella gains.
Im just saying that its not the gear that makes the person but the person that makes the gear work, unless you got some bunk gear.

By not stacking first time i think it will help your tolerence better for the second cycle and thats when you add a stack if needed. Just my 2cc's worth anyway.
 

Oldschool70

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I know i might get flamed for this but i dont think you realy need to stack for the first cycle.

For my first "which was one of my best" all i done was 400 mg per week for 10 weeks of shit ass brovel and got hella gains.
Im just saying that its not the gear that makes the person but the person that makes the gear work, unless you got some bunk gear.

By not stacking first time i think it will help your tolerence better for the second cycle and thats when you add a stack if needed. Just my 2cc's worth anyway.
I would have to agree...but I can see the D-bol added so the first time user can start seeing some gains in the first couple of weeks. Someone (especially of a novice type) could be quite impatient waiting a month for the Test-E to kick in.
 

FTW

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I would have to agree...but I can see the D-bol added so the first time user can start seeing some gains in the first couple of weeks. Someone (especially of a novice type) could be quite impatient waiting a month for the Test-E to kick in.
True most starters wana look like Arnold in a few days time. The thing i hate about D-bol is its mostly water weight as has done more damage to my joints than anything.
You also gota keep in mind that by not stacking then you will know how good or bad your brand test is when it does kick in. IE if its legit or shit.
I think the placebo effect for beginers is a stack in itself.
In away you cant realy make a perfect beginers cycle since what works for one person will not work well for the other, since were all not the same.
For Beginers my best advice would be train, train and train some more till your 110% sure you wana devote yourself to what many call "the darkside".
God i hate that saying!
 

-0000-

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I agree FTW..

My first cycle was only Test-E for 14wks and I blew up.

Also its easier to control sides when using a single ester Test..

Take too many products and have no clue which ones are giving you bad sides.

A simple Test cycle for your first few cycles is just fine imo...
 

Package

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Sample 1
Wk 1-4 Dbol 30mg/ED
Wk 1-10 Test E 500mg/wk (inject 250mg 2X wk)

Sample 2
WK 1-4 Dbol 30mg/ED
Wk 1-12 Test E 500mg/wk (inject 250mg 2X wk)
Wk 1-12 EQ 400mg/wk (inject 200mg 2X wk)

Sample 3
Wk 1-4 Dbol 30mg/ED
Wk 1-10 Test E 500mg/wk (inject 250mg 2X wk)
Wk 1-10 Deca 400mg/wk (inject 200mg 2X wk)


PCT for cycles 8-16wks:
Day 1-30- .25mg L-dex + 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva......of course this can be changed this is not set in stone...if you dont know when to start PCT then ASK!
Some may not be ready for a "Bread&Butter cycle"multiple compound,and just run a "Bread only"one compound, long ester like Test E,kick starting it with D-bol for 4 weeks, getting and keeping a newbie excited.Thats my 2 worth,what do you guy's think?[/

Those look goo , i want to run at least 2 cycles this year!
 

Package

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Between Sample 2 and Sample 3......one has EQ , one has Deca , whats the benefit and difference between those
 

FTW

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For mass Deca blows Eq out of the water..
And also Deca is great for dealing with joint pains, but has more sides than EQ. The worst that people hate is "deca dick", but when using the right amout of test can be avoided.

Like i said no two people are alike and some tend to like deca and others EQ.
Personaly if using deca i like to front load it on a cycle but that a whole new topic in itself. The same thing applys to front loading , some love it, some hate it and think its a waste.

If you hell bent on doing a stack for you first cycle then you will go threw trail and error till you find out what works best for you and at what mg per week. Thats kinda why im saying keep it simple for the first one and run only test and that sets the bar and then work from there.

But no matter what kinda aas your using if your workout and diet isnt set right then its a total waste of good money. If your saying i wana be so big that i scare small childern while im at wal-mart then your gona do what you want and not think about how less can = more in the long run.

What Wylie said about test-E for 14 weeks would be a perfect way to get your feat wet without jumping in the deep end and raising your tolerence for every cycle in the future. If you plan on doing 2-cycle per year then there is no rush IMO to use more aas at the get go since you have plenty of time in the future to do so.

This is something i tend to do on a side note, is if i plan out a 12 week cycle i just about always go 2-3 weeks over the set date i planed. So if you set a 12 week cycle chaces are that it could turn into a 14 week cycle very easy. because when your on top the mountian you realy dont wana come back down to flat land no time soon.
 

HALO

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Very well put FTW,and I agree w/you guys on multiple compounds.I just thought posting these would help answer one of the most commonly asked questions that a newbie has.Everyone's advice in this thread is excellent and should be takin into consideration.
 

FTW

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Very well put FTW,and I agree w/you guys on multiple compounds.I just thought posting these would help answer one of the most commonly asked questions that a newbie has.Everyone's advice in this thread is excellent and should be takin into consideration.
Thx man, likewise. I hardly ever make posts on other discussion forums because you see the same questions over and over again. But if i said what i just did about starting out a setting your base first most people would flame away and say something like well i run 1g a week of this ,600 mg of that and 200mg of orals. And realy not caring that thats an advanced cycle.

If i could go back in time and tweak some of my cycle ive done in the past id more than likely change all but the first. Just for the reson that using one compound i had faster recovery , got use to using pins the right way and didnt spent a load of cash and still got quality gains.

Hell i took almost 9 months off and my recptors got back on track and im right now running somthing close to sample 3 but without the d-bol and im going 14 weeks and gains are not bad at all for a small amount.

Personaly i feal that devotion is the key to bodybuilding and not the supplements but thats a brand new topic.
 

HALO

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No problem FTW and thank you guys also,because i had forgot to mention not knowing which sides your getting from what compound when running a multiple.Keep us posted on your progress FTW!!
 

FTW

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Bro my gains are good since my b/f is around what id guess 6-7% but the bad part is i cant let myself get over 220 pounds or it destroys my knee.Ive put off having surgery for the last few years but im gona have it done in december. It sucks my uperbody is decent size but my legs look like shit.
 

HALO

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I hear ya FTW on the surgery thing but hey,if it really needs to be done,what ya gonna do ya know.I'm just glad mines done and over with so my hand can heal now and get back to working more than just my lowers.
 
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